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	<title>Comments on: Latest Update on Sticky Saxophone Pads</title>
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		<title>By: mrG</title>
		<link>http://craigbuhler.com/2007/06/20/what-do-you-do-when-saxophone-pads-stick/#comment-4512</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mrG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 03:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[heh ... thanks for the endorsement, and yeah, check out that PDF download, it is assembled from several online sources by some other bloggers (Casa Valdez is where I think I found it)  and I just felt it needed a ready webhosting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh &#8230; thanks for the endorsement, and yeah, check out that PDF download, it is assembled from several online sources by some other bloggers (Casa Valdez is where I think I found it)  and I just felt it needed a ready webhosting.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Buhler</title>
		<link>http://craigbuhler.com/2007/06/20/what-do-you-do-when-saxophone-pads-stick/#comment-4510</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Buhler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey saxophone fans,
Check out his blog.  He has an article about legendary reed coach Joe Allard.
c.b.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey saxophone fans,<br />
Check out his blog.  He has an article about legendary reed coach Joe Allard.<br />
c.b.</p>
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		<title>By: mrG</title>
		<link>http://craigbuhler.com/2007/06/20/what-do-you-do-when-saxophone-pads-stick/#comment-4509</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mrG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, this is rural conservative Ontario, although there&#039;s been a low-end Selmer I&#039;ve seen sitting in the Toronto-suburban branch for years -- I don&#039;t find it particularly surprising given that 99% of their business is likely school bands who&#039;d never look at a horn over $500.

it is my guess the typically conservative and largely uninformed Canadians never looked past the stigma on the brand name on the horn; it is a Jupiter, yes, which means it is a Japan/Taiwan collaboration by the same company who also bring you those $200-$600 horns, but a little research shows that Taiwan is where Japan was in the 90&#039;s, because it is now mainland China who are dominating the low-end manufacturing and like Japan back then, Taiwan realized they had to become credible to survive; the Jupiter Artist XO (2069) was among the first of the new pro-series hand-hammered horns, and while I&#039;m no expert, I am perfectly happy with it, apart from the stickiness (which seems to be improving with use)  I&#039;d say it compares well with Yamaha&#039;s that cost nearly $1000 more, the action is excellent as is the intonation, and only time will tell if I spent my money foolishly.

but yes, the horn was factory-original, yet the serial number 000xxx apparently says it is a 1991 edition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is rural conservative Ontario, although there&#8217;s been a low-end Selmer I&#8217;ve seen sitting in the Toronto-suburban branch for years &#8212; I don&#8217;t find it particularly surprising given that 99% of their business is likely school bands who&#8217;d never look at a horn over $500.</p>
<p>it is my guess the typically conservative and largely uninformed Canadians never looked past the stigma on the brand name on the horn; it is a Jupiter, yes, which means it is a Japan/Taiwan collaboration by the same company who also bring you those $200-$600 horns, but a little research shows that Taiwan is where Japan was in the 90&#8242;s, because it is now mainland China who are dominating the low-end manufacturing and like Japan back then, Taiwan realized they had to become credible to survive; the Jupiter Artist XO (2069) was among the first of the new pro-series hand-hammered horns, and while I&#8217;m no expert, I am perfectly happy with it, apart from the stickiness (which seems to be improving with use)  I&#8217;d say it compares well with Yamaha&#8217;s that cost nearly $1000 more, the action is excellent as is the intonation, and only time will tell if I spent my money foolishly.</p>
<p>but yes, the horn was factory-original, yet the serial number 000xxx apparently says it is a 1991 edition.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Buhler</title>
		<link>http://craigbuhler.com/2007/06/20/what-do-you-do-when-saxophone-pads-stick/#comment-4507</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Buhler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 06:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you saying you purchased a &quot;brand new&quot; horn which sat in the music store un-purchased for 10 years??!!   How do they stay in business with inventory overhead like that?   How does your horn play?  I just got a wonderful overhaul from John Guyer at Kennelly Keys Lynnwood, and my Keilwerth plays like a dream.  He cleaned &amp; reseated all the pads.  Knock on wood...hope they don&#039;t stick for a while.  It comes &amp; goes with me.  Either my body chemistry changes, or the humidity changes.  i went for 2 years with no problems,  They re-imerged this spring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you saying you purchased a &#8220;brand new&#8221; horn which sat in the music store un-purchased for 10 years??!!   How do they stay in business with inventory overhead like that?   How does your horn play?  I just got a wonderful overhaul from John Guyer at Kennelly Keys Lynnwood, and my Keilwerth plays like a dream.  He cleaned &amp; reseated all the pads.  Knock on wood&#8230;hope they don&#8217;t stick for a while.  It comes &amp; goes with me.  Either my body chemistry changes, or the humidity changes.  i went for 2 years with no problems,  They re-imerged this spring.</p>
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		<title>By: mrG</title>
		<link>http://craigbuhler.com/2007/06/20/what-do-you-do-when-saxophone-pads-stick/#comment-4503</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mrG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those with really chronic sticky G# problems may want to ever so slightly increase the tension on the spring; it won&#039;t cure the horn, you&#039;ll get that annoying sticky sound, but at least your audience will get the right note.

My theory for the new-horn problem is that it may have a combination of dust and previous customer saliva as a guck base; I just purchased a horn that the serial number tells me had spent nearly a decade waiting for a buyer (I hope that&#039;s not a really bad omen) and I can imagine all sorts of people might have tried the horn in that amount of time.

I used to use a soft absorbent cloth that I pulled through the pressed-down keypad like the advice above for using a dollar, but I was later told that I ran the risk of shifting the pad position and shouldn&#039;t do that, even very lightly.  

I&#039;m tempted to try the same dilute vinegar solution I use to dissolve the guck that builds on the inside of the curves and in the mouthpiece.  I figure it can&#039;t hurt and usually clears out the mouthpiece buildup pretty fast.  Any reason I shouldn&#039;t soak a cloth in vinegar &amp; water and let that sit against the pad for a minute or two?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those with really chronic sticky G# problems may want to ever so slightly increase the tension on the spring; it won&#8217;t cure the horn, you&#8217;ll get that annoying sticky sound, but at least your audience will get the right note.</p>
<p>My theory for the new-horn problem is that it may have a combination of dust and previous customer saliva as a guck base; I just purchased a horn that the serial number tells me had spent nearly a decade waiting for a buyer (I hope that&#8217;s not a really bad omen) and I can imagine all sorts of people might have tried the horn in that amount of time.</p>
<p>I used to use a soft absorbent cloth that I pulled through the pressed-down keypad like the advice above for using a dollar, but I was later told that I ran the risk of shifting the pad position and shouldn&#8217;t do that, even very lightly.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m tempted to try the same dilute vinegar solution I use to dissolve the guck that builds on the inside of the curves and in the mouthpiece.  I figure it can&#8217;t hurt and usually clears out the mouthpiece buildup pretty fast.  Any reason I shouldn&#8217;t soak a cloth in vinegar &amp; water and let that sit against the pad for a minute or two?</p>
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		<title>By: Katlyn Williams</title>
		<link>http://craigbuhler.com/2007/06/20/what-do-you-do-when-saxophone-pads-stick/#comment-3037</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katlyn Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve tried the dollar, but not overnight...i&#039;m also going to look into the lube and mineral oil. I have a solo in marching band and EVERYTIME I play my G# it sticks, then half way through the note it comes unstuck. sounds bad and is annoying for all. thanks for the tips. can&#039;t wait to try them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried the dollar, but not overnight&#8230;i&#8217;m also going to look into the lube and mineral oil. I have a solo in marching band and EVERYTIME I play my G# it sticks, then half way through the note it comes unstuck. sounds bad and is annoying for all. thanks for the tips. can&#8217;t wait to try them.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Buhler</title>
		<link>http://craigbuhler.com/2007/06/20/what-do-you-do-when-saxophone-pads-stick/#comment-2931</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Buhler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[speaking of Charlie Parker, did you check out my latest post -- http://craigbuhler.com/2009/08/22/lick-from-birds-solo-on-cosmic-rays/ -- which is a absolutely great lick from Bird&#039;s solo on &quot;Cosmic Rays&quot;?  the sheet music shows the lick in all 12 keys.  the recording is the actual Bird recording, transposed into all 12 keys, but slowed down.   give it a try!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of Charlie Parker, did you check out my latest post &#8212; <a href="http://craigbuhler.com/2009/08/22/lick-from-birds-solo-on-cosmic-rays/" rel="nofollow">http://craigbuhler.com/2009/08/22/lick-from-birds-solo-on-cosmic-rays/</a> &#8212; which is a absolutely great lick from Bird&#8217;s solo on &#8220;Cosmic Rays&#8221;?  the sheet music shows the lick in all 12 keys.  the recording is the actual Bird recording, transposed into all 12 keys, but slowed down.   give it a try!</p>
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		<title>By: Relaxation Music Australia</title>
		<link>http://craigbuhler.com/2007/06/20/what-do-you-do-when-saxophone-pads-stick/#comment-2930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Relaxation Music Australia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Craig - thanks for the reply.  I have 25 years of Tenor and 20 years of Alto 
under my belt.  My clarinet has only been played a few times in the last 10 years or so, 
but it used to get a bit of a work out.  
While I am not Maceo Parker (nor Charlie Parker for that matter - pity), I can
get a vaguely decent and controlled sound out of both my Tenor and Alto.
I am, however, a Soprano Virgin.
This may go towards your theory - new (default) mouthpiece, too soft a reed, lack of Soprano chops, etc.  
Surely a bad workman is entitled to blame his tools now and then ?
I&#039;ll try a few baby wipes, some cigarette papers, maybe some lighter fluid on my new pads and see how I go.....
And probably a fair bit of practice might help too :-)
Thanks for your suggestions - Matthew, Melbourne, Australia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Craig &#8211; thanks for the reply.  I have 25 years of Tenor and 20 years of Alto<br />
under my belt.  My clarinet has only been played a few times in the last 10 years or so,<br />
but it used to get a bit of a work out.<br />
While I am not Maceo Parker (nor Charlie Parker for that matter &#8211; pity), I can<br />
get a vaguely decent and controlled sound out of both my Tenor and Alto.<br />
I am, however, a Soprano Virgin.<br />
This may go towards your theory &#8211; new (default) mouthpiece, too soft a reed, lack of Soprano chops, etc.<br />
Surely a bad workman is entitled to blame his tools now and then ?<br />
I&#8217;ll try a few baby wipes, some cigarette papers, maybe some lighter fluid on my new pads and see how I go&#8230;..<br />
And probably a fair bit of practice might help too <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Thanks for your suggestions &#8211; Matthew, Melbourne, Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Buhler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Buhler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Matthew,
I would have to play your new soprano in order to determine the source of its &quot;dodgy lower end.&quot;  One generally runs for the &quot;leak light&quot; to search for leaks whenever the bottom end of the horn fails to speak.  However, i have found that one&#039;s mouthpiece, reed, ligature, and embechoure also play a part in getting the low end to sing.  Are you new to playing soprano?   I have found that the soprano has its own unique embechoure challenges in the altissimo &amp; the low end.  I can be well-practiced on tenor and still struggle with the soprano&#039;s extremities, if i have not been shedding on it.
     An interesting new chapter in my own ongoing struggle with sticky pads ... there have been zero sticky pad issues for me in the past year.  Knock on wood!  Is it my changing body chemistry?  climate change?  pad chemistry change?   I don&#039;t know.  Hope it continues for me and that your G# issue resolves quickly &amp; easilly.
cb]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Matthew,<br />
I would have to play your new soprano in order to determine the source of its &#8220;dodgy lower end.&#8221;  One generally runs for the &#8220;leak light&#8221; to search for leaks whenever the bottom end of the horn fails to speak.  However, i have found that one&#8217;s mouthpiece, reed, ligature, and embechoure also play a part in getting the low end to sing.  Are you new to playing soprano?   I have found that the soprano has its own unique embechoure challenges in the altissimo &amp; the low end.  I can be well-practiced on tenor and still struggle with the soprano&#8217;s extremities, if i have not been shedding on it.<br />
     An interesting new chapter in my own ongoing struggle with sticky pads &#8230; there have been zero sticky pad issues for me in the past year.  Knock on wood!  Is it my changing body chemistry?  climate change?  pad chemistry change?   I don&#8217;t know.  Hope it continues for me and that your G# issue resolves quickly &amp; easilly.<br />
cb</p>
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		<title>By: Relaxation Music Australia</title>
		<link>http://craigbuhler.com/2007/06/20/what-do-you-do-when-saxophone-pads-stick/#comment-2928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Relaxation Music Australia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very interesting indeed - thanks heaps for the info and comments.  I must have been lucky - my tenor and my alto have never had this problem.  However, I have just purchased a brand new soprano which has an unfortunate case of the stickies (especially g#).  This is a brand new, never played, with all of those irritating little cork pieces that you have to remove with tweezers from under many of the springs.  From reading the above, it appears that this issue is caused by moisture and associated buildup of gunk ?  Can this happen on a brand new instrument ?  I&#039;ll try the suggestions above before I get too stressed about my new sax.... this may explain the dodgy lower end on my new sax too.... Thanks, Matthew.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting indeed &#8211; thanks heaps for the info and comments.  I must have been lucky &#8211; my tenor and my alto have never had this problem.  However, I have just purchased a brand new soprano which has an unfortunate case of the stickies (especially g#).  This is a brand new, never played, with all of those irritating little cork pieces that you have to remove with tweezers from under many of the springs.  From reading the above, it appears that this issue is caused by moisture and associated buildup of gunk ?  Can this happen on a brand new instrument ?  I&#8217;ll try the suggestions above before I get too stressed about my new sax&#8230;. this may explain the dodgy lower end on my new sax too&#8230;. Thanks, Matthew.</p>
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